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Mark: Mark Kaufmann here again for the EnglishLingQ Podcast.

As usual, I’m joined by Jill Soles. |像往常一样||||| ||||||Soles What’s new today Jill? Jill: Not a whole lot. Jill: No mucho. Джилл: Не очень много. Jill: Çok fazla değil.

Mark: No.

Jill: What’s new with you? Jill: Senin neyin var?

It’s Monday. How was your weekend? Mark: Weekend was good; weekend was good.

Actually, we were just talking about this before we started the podcast how Saturday…well, we were talking about the weather and how we were supposed to have a nice sunny weekend and it wasn’t. It was okay, but it wasn’t nice and sunny. At the end of the week last week we had some nice days, so I was saying how it might not have been sunny, but the weather was a bit like it is today, which is overcast, but no rain. ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||cloudy||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||nublado||| Geçen haftanın sonunda güzel günler geçirdik, bu yüzden güneşli olmayabilir ama hava biraz bugünkü gibiydi, yani kapalı ama yağmur yok diyordum. I said that’s a good Saturday for us here especially since most Saturdays I seem to be spending watching my kids play soccer and when I’m not watching in the rain that’s a good Saturday for me. He dicho que es un buen sábado para nosotros aquí, especialmente porque la mayoría de los sábados que parece estar gastando viendo a mis hijos jugar al fútbol y cuando no estoy viendo en la lluvia que es un buen sábado para mí. Я сказал, что это хорошая суббота для нас, особенно с учетом того, что большинство суббот я провожу, наблюдая за игрой детей в футбол, и когда я не наблюдаю за игрой под дождем, это хорошая суббота для меня. Jill: Yeah, it’s true.

Soccer season here, maybe everywhere, is what? Starts September? Mark: Yeah, I don’t think it’s everywhere at all, but certainly the season here is September basically through until the end of March. |||||||||||||||||up to|||||

Jill: Which, you know, September is usually a pretty decent month here and sometimes in October you can get some nice weather, but the rest of the months are terrible in Vancouver.

Mark: Terrible.

Jill: Very rainy, very wet and I think it’s quite common for kids to play soccer here; although, Canadians are not known for their soccer that’s for sure. Джил: Очень дождливо, очень мокро, и я думаю, что здесь довольно часто дети играют в футбол; хотя канадцы не славятся своим футболом, это точно.

Mark: Well I think part of the reason why Canadian soccer players aren’t very good is because they never play soccer in decent weather, you know.

I mean, it’s always wet and when we have nice weather nobody plays soccer. Yani, her zaman ıslak ve güzel havalarda kimse futbol oynamaz. Jill: That’s right.

Mark: From April through to September there is no soccer. |||||九月||||

Jill: No, there’s some softball and… ||||light-hearted banter|

Mark: It makes no sense at all.

Jill: Yeah.

Mark: And so soccer starts up in the fall and maybe you get some good weather in September and then it’s pretty wet the rest of the way. Mark: Así que el fútbol empieza en otoño y puede que haga buen tiempo en septiembre, pero luego es bastante húmedo el resto del año.

Jill: I know a lot of kids might try it.

I know my little sister tried soccer one year and after that she hated it. Kız kardeşimin bir yıl futbolu denediğini ve ondan nefret ettiğini biliyorum. She didn’t want to do it again because she was freezing all the time just standing there, especially when you’re little. No quería volver a hacerlo porque se quedaba helada todo el rato allí de pie, sobre todo cuando eres pequeña. Bir daha yapmak istemedi, çünkü orada durup dururken sürekli donuyordu, özellikle küçükken. You don’t do a lot of running around initially and you just stand there shivering half the time. ||||||||||||||trembling with cold||| ||||||||||||||tremendo||| Al principio no corres mucho y te quedas ahí tiritando la mitad del tiempo. Başlangıçta etrafta koşuşturma konusunda fazla bir şey yapmıyorsunuz ve sadece yarı zamanlı titreyerek orada duruyorsunuz. Mark: Oh yeah, it’s miserable. Mark: Ah evet, sefil.

Jill: And it’s miserable for the parents who have to... Jill: Yapması gereken ebeveynler için sefil ...

Mark: Especially miserable for the parents because at least the kids are moving around.

The parents are standing there and it’s, you know, 4 degrees and raining and it’s just…oh, it’s just not pleasant at all. Ebeveynler orada duruyorlar ve biliyorsunuz, 4 derece ve yağmur yağıyor ve sadece… oh, hiç hoş değil. I just don’t understand it. Jill: I’m never introducing soccer to my kids. Jill: Asla çocuklarıma futbol tanıtmıyorum.

They can play any other sport, but not soccer. I just don’t want any part of soccer. Mark: Yeah, well that’s the thing. Mark: Evet, şey bu.

It’s a great game and everybody can play and they run around and their friends play and that’s all great, but I tell ya'. My son plays hockey and you’d think hockey on the ice it would be cold, but no, it’s much more comfortable. Jill: And dry at least.

Mark: It’s dry.

It’s a bit cool in the arenas, but a lot of the arenas have heaters where the parents sit and watch. ||||||競技場||||||||加熱器|||||| ||||||sports venues||||||||warming devices|||||| Arenalarda biraz havalı, ancak birçok alanda ebeveynlerin oturduğu ve izlediği ısıtıcılar var. There are heaters, it’s inside, right; it’s just much more comfortable. We’re standing on the sideline at soccer and I know we’re whining and it’s not that big a deal, but it gets irritating when it’s every Saturday. ||||場邊|||||||||||||||||||||| ||||the edge|||||||complaining|||||||||||annoying|||| Estamos en la banda del fútbol y sé que nos estamos quejando y que no es para tanto, pero se vuelve irritante cuando es todos los sábados. Futbolun kenar çizgisinde duruyoruz ve sızlandığımızı biliyorum ve bu o kadar da önemli değil, ama her cumartesi çok rahatsız edici oluyor. You’ve got three kids playing and you’re standing there. Oynayan üç çocuğunuz var ve orada duruyorsunuz. Jill: And it’s for six months of the year. Jill: Ve yılın altı ayı için.

Mark: Soccer season seems to go on forever. Mark: Futbol sezonu sonsuza dek sürecek gibi görünüyor.

My biggest problem with it is it can’t be good for their soccer. Benim en büyük sorunum onların futbolu için iyi olmamasıdır. You’re running around in the slop, mud, dirt, whatever, all winter long and, you know, how good is your ball control going to get when the ball is slipping the whole time. |||||泥濘|||||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||muddy conditions|||||||||||||||||||||||||| Estás corriendo por el barro, la suciedad, lo que sea, todo el invierno y, ya sabes, ¿cómo de bueno va a ser tu control de la pelota cuando la pelota está resbalando todo el tiempo? Tüm kış boyunca yokuşta, çamur, kir, her neyse koşturup koşuyorsun ve bilirsin, top sürekli kaydığında top kontrolünün ne kadar iyi olacağını biliyorsun. It reminds me of during the Rugby World Cup the, I don’t know, English or Irish announcers that were announcing the game.

I think maybe Argentina was playing. Sanırım Arjantin oynuyordu. I can’t remember who was playing. They were saying oh yeah, well, you know, they really handle the ball well, but, you know, they play in those dry weather conditions all the time, which really makes it easier to develop your ball handling. The implication being the weather in Britain being wet most of the time isn’t as conducive to ball handling, so their game tends to be a little more…a little less skillful I should say in terms of ball handling. |||||||||||||||favorable for handling||||||||||||||||less adept|||||||| Britanya'da hava durumu olduğu iddiası çoğu zaman ıslak olduğu için top kullanımı için elverişli değildir, bu yüzden onların oyunları biraz daha fazla olma eğilimindedir… top ele alma konusunda söylemeliyim biraz daha az yetenekli. I was thinking yeah, sort of like the soccer here; no wonder we’re no good at it. Estaba pensando que sí, algo así como el fútbol aquí; no me extraña que no se nos dé bien. Evet, sanırım buradaki futbol gibi; Merak etme, bu konuda iyi değiliz. Jill: No wonder we excel at hockey and not soccer. ||||are proficient||||| ||não é de admirar||||||| Jill: Futbolda değil, hokeyde üstün olmamız şaşırtıcı değil.

Mark: Well, that’s right.

What’s funny is in the rest of Canada they don’t play in the wintertime because it’s too cold. Komik olan Kanada'nın geri kalanında, kışın oynamadıkları, çünkü çok soğuk. They play in the summer and here, for some reason, we think well, because you can actually play here because it’s not frozen, like it’s not snow and ice it’s just cold and wet, we have our soccer season in the wintertime, but I don’t think it makes any sense at all. Yazın ve burada oynarlar, nedense, iyi düşünürüz, çünkü aslında burada oynayabilirsiniz çünkü donmuş değil, kar ve buz gibi değil, soğuk ve nemli, kış mevsiminde futbol sezonumuzu tuttuk, hiç mantıklı gelmediğini sanmıyorum. The nicest weather of the year here nobody plays soccer; it’s crazy. Burada yılın en güzel havaları kimse futbol oynamaz; bu delilik. Jill: Yeah, I don’t know if it has to do with not enough fields because of baseball season being in the spring or if it’s just that they think because a lot of people go away in the summer that people won’t be around enough. Jill: Evet, bahar mevsiminde olduğu için beyzbol mevsimi nedeniyle yeterli alanla mı uğraşmak zorunda mıyım yoksa sadece sanıyorlar mı çünkü yaz aylarında insanların etrafında olamayacaklarını düşündüğü bir sürü insan var. yeterli.

I don’t know what the rational is. No sé cuál es la razón. Mantığın ne olduğunu bilmiyorum. Mark: Those are two of the reasons that you hear. Mark: Bunlar duyduğunuz sebeplerden ikisi.

Jill: Oh, really?

Mark: Baseball and that people go away in the summer, but people go away in the rest of Canada too and it’s not like people are away all summer. Mark: Beyzbol ve o insanlar yaz aylarında kayboluyorlar, ama insanlar Kanada'nın geri kalanında da gidiyorlar ve sanki tüm yaz uzakta değiller.

People might go for a week here, a week there, so you miss the odd game; at least the rest of the time you’re playing and the sun is shining. ||||||||||||||occasional||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||um jogo||||||||||||||| La gente puede irse una semana aquí, una semana allá, así que te pierdes algún que otro partido; al menos el resto del tiempo estás jugando y brilla el sol. İnsanlar burada bir hafta, orada bir hafta gidebilir, bu yüzden tuhaf oyunu kaçırırsınız; en azından oynadığın zaman ve güneş parlıyor. Jill: Yeah, exactly.

Mark: You know?

Jill: And the parents are out getting a tan instead of shivering with an umbrella. ||||||||曬黑|||||| ||||||||sunbathing|||feeling cold||| Jill: Y los padres están fuera tomando el sol en lugar de tiritando con un paraguas. Jill: Ve ebeveynler şemsiyeyle titremek yerine bronzlaşıyorlar.

Mark: I know.

As for baseball, I don’t know if you’ve ever watched kids' baseball, but my eldest daughter played one year of T-ball. ||||||||||||||oldest||||||| Jill: It was painful.

Mark: I said never again; painful, oh.

Jill: Well, T-ball and when they’re first starting when they are that young.

Mark: It’s just horrible and they don’t get any exercise they just stand around; lots of parents shouting instructions trying to explain the rules, which make no sense to a little kid. Mark: Bu sadece korkunç ve onlar sadece ayakta durdukları herhangi bir egzersiz yapmıyorlar; Birçok çocuk, küçük bir çocuğa hiçbir şey ifade etmeyen kuralları açıklamaya çalışan talimatlar bağırıyor.

No, no, little guys, they should throw the ball, play catch with each other, you know, try and hit the ball a little bit that’s all. Hayır, hayır, küçük adamlar, topu atmalı, birbirleriyle oyun oynamalılar, bilirsin, topa biraz vurmalıyız. There is no need for organized baseball. Boy, that is just a… Jill: Until they get a little older and can actually understand.

Mark: It’s a complete waste of time, yeah. Mark: Bu tamamen zaman kaybı, evet.

Jill: Yeah, I know my sister does still play ball.

She’s young though; she’s 16, but she’s played for years and years and years. Like I said, she tried soccer and hated it, but I think mostly because of the season. Dediğim gibi, futbolu denedi ve bundan nefret ediyordu, ama bence çoğunlukla sezon yüzünden. Mark: Right.

Jill: Softball…actually, she plays baseball, is from April to June.

Actually, we can have quite a lot of rainy weather in that period as well, but it’s not cold at least. Mark: Yeah.

Jill: We also can get some really nice sunny weather, so.

I know some of her tournaments this past year in June were pouring rain for the whole weekend, but then there were other tournaments that were beautiful sunshine so, you know, she likes it and she has stuck with it for years, but soccer…I think a lot of kids play it for a year and just aren’t interested or the parents aren’t into it. Mark: Yeah, I know.

Jill: They don’t want to stand out there every single Saturday in the rain for six months.

Mark: I know; it’s terrible.

Jill: I don’t care if it’s, you know, selfish. Jill: Bilirsin, bencilce olması umrumda değil.

I don’t think I’m going to expose my kids to soccer. Mark: Yeah, no kidding. Mark: Sí, no me digas.

The thing is…like soccer has got a higher participation rate than hockey for sure and not just because so many girls play, even amongst boys. ||||||||||||||||||||||||even among boys| Mesele şu ki… futbolun, hokeyden daha yüksek bir katılım oranına sahip olması elbette ve sadece erkekler arasında bile çok fazla kız oynadığı için değil. There are more boys that play soccer than play hockey. Futbol oynayan, hokeyden daha çok erkek var. Jill: Oh, really?

Mark: Yeah, I’m pretty sure.

Jill: I think it’s also a less expensive sport to play, right? Jill: Bence oynamak daha ucuz bir spor, değil mi?

Mark: Much less expensive to get into for sure.

Jill: And so the people who really can’t afford to put their kids in hockey and buy all the equipment and skates and then I think just the registration for hockey is quite a lot as well. |||||||||||||||||||||滑冰鞋||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||||||ice skates||||||||||||||| Джил: И поэтому люди, которые действительно не могут позволить себе отдать детей в хоккей и купить всю экипировку и коньки, а затем, я думаю, и просто регистрацию на хоккей, тоже стоят немало. Jill: Ve böylece çocuklarını hokeye sokmayı ve tüm malzemeleri ve patenleri satın almayı gerçekten göze alamayacak olan insanlar ve sonra sadece hokey kayıtlarının da oldukça fazla olduğunu düşünüyorum.

Mark: Yeah, it is.

I mean, soccer you have to pay for registration too because the fields need maintenance. Demek istediğim, futbolun da kayıt için para vermesi gerekiyor çünkü sahaların bakıma ihtiyacı var. I was going to say, ice time costs money too, that’s why the hockey costs are maybe higher for enrollment, but soccer is just an easy game. |||||||||||||||||||註冊||||||| |||||||||||||||||||signing up||||||| |||||||||||||||||||inscrição||||||| Buz zamanının da paraya mal olacağını söyleyecektim, bu yüzden hokey maliyetleri kayıt için daha yüksek olabilir, ancak futbol sadece kolay bir oyundur. Kids who maybe aren’t necessarily that athletically inclined, parents will just put them in soccer. ||||||運動上|||||||| ||||||physically skilled|inclined||||||| Belki de atletik olarak eğimli olması gerekmeyen çocuklar, ebeveynler onları sadece futbol oynayacak. As you say, there’s no equipment required. Here, go run around a little bit. Toma, corre un poco. Jill: You can run around, yeah, whereas hockey you have to at least be able to skate.

Mark: Yeah or you learn to skate, but it’s more of a commitment and getting all the equipment. ||||||||||||dedication||||| Mark: Sí o aprendes a patinar, pero es más un compromiso y conseguir todo el equipo. Mark: Evet, ya paten yapmayı öğrenirsin, ama bu daha fazla bir taahhüt ve tüm teçhizatı elde etmek demektir.

Yeah, it’s more of a commitment. Evet, daha fazla bir taahhüt var. Jill: Also, as you play hockey more and more you get into those…I remember my brother…you know, 6:30 a.m. Jill: Ayrıca, daha fazla hokey oynarken, bunlara giriyorsun… Kardeşimi hatırlıyorum…

practice times and even earlier I think, which a lot of parents aren’t interested in. Mark: No.

This year for the first time, Wednesday morning 6:45, my son has practice and I’m the coach. Which, you know what, once you’re up, you’re up, you’re out there, but it’s early. Hangisi, ne olduğunu biliyorsun, bir kez ayağa kalkarsan, ayağa kalkarsın, dışarıdasın, ama daha erken. Like they are going, they are getting up early, they are practicing before school and, you know, charge from there to school, but that’s how it is. Van, se levantan temprano, practican antes de ir al colegio y, ya sabes, cargan desde allí hasta el colegio, pero es así. Gittikleri gibi, erken kalkıyorlar, okuldan önce pratik yapıyorlar ve bilirsiniz, oradan okula suçlanıyorsunuz, ama bu böyle. There is so much demand for ice time and there’s not enough ice to go around, so. Buz zamanı için çok fazla talep var ve etrafta dolaşacak kadar buz yok. Jill: And it’s been that way forever because it was 20 years ago that my brother played organized hockey as a kid; more than 20 years ago it was the same. Jill: Sonsuza dek böyle oldu çünkü 20 yıl önce kardeşimin çocukken organize hokey oynamasıydı; 20 yıldan fazla önce aynıydı.

It was, you know, 6:30 or 7:00 in the morning that they played and I can tell you my mom wasn’t very interested in that. Biliyor musun, sabah 6:30 ya da 7:00 de çaldılar ve annemin bununla pek ilgilenmediğini söyleyebilirim. Mark: No, neither was my mom when we had them. Mark: No, tampoco mi madre cuando los tuvimos. Марк: Нет, как и моя мама, когда они у нас появились. Mark: Hayır, onları yaptığımızda annem de değildi.

I can remember…actually, they were quite happy when I turned 16 and I was able to drive myself to my 5:45 practice on Saturday morning. Recuerdo... en realidad, se alegraron bastante cuando cumplí 16 años y pude ir en coche a mi entrenamiento de las 5:45 el sábado por la mañana. Jill: And on a Saturday especially; oh my goodness.

Mark: …in high school, how do you like that?

That was, yeah… Jill: I guess that’s a good way also to weed out the sort of unmotivated and not very dedicated people because only the 16 year olds who are really motivated and love hockey are going to get up at 5:00 a.m. ||||||||||||||缺乏動力||||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||||||filter out|||||lacking drive||||||||||||||||||||||||| Jill: Supongo que también es una buena forma de eliminar a la gente desmotivada y poco entregada, porque sólo los chicos de 16 años que están realmente motivados y aman el hockey se levantarán a las 5 de la mañana. Джил: Думаю, это хороший способ отсеять немотивированных и не очень преданных своему делу людей, потому что только 16-летние подростки, которые действительно мотивированы и любят хоккей, будут вставать в 5 утра.

on a Saturday. Mark: Well, that’s the thing, right?

Those times will start to only be distributed to the higher level teams because the other guys, the recreational guys, won’t get up and play at those times so, yeah; something to look forward to. Esos horarios empezarán a repartirse sólo entre los equipos de mayor nivel, porque los demás, los recreativos, no se levantarán a jugar a esas horas, así que, sí; algo que esperar. Bu zamanlar sadece üst düzey takımlara dağıtılmaya başlanacak çünkü diğer çocuklar, rekreasyonel çocuklar, o saatlerde kalkıp oynamayacaklar, bu yüzden evet; dört gözle beklenecek bir şey. Jill: Oh, I think I need to have girls, all girls; no hockey and no soccer. Jill: Oh, sanırım tüm kızlara ihtiyacım var; Hokey ve futbol yok.

Mark: They can just sit around all day watching TV.

Jill: Oh no, no, no, they’ll be active, but I’m not sure, in organized school sports and skiing and hiking and things like that I think.

Mark: Well, you’ll see.

Jill: We’ll see, yeah.

Mark: You’ll see.

What if they come home and say I want to play soccer? Jill: I don’t know; we’ll have to wait and see.

Chris can deal with it. Chris bununla baş edebilir. Mark: You have some time to think about it.

Jill: Yeah.

Mark: Prepare. Mark: Prepárate.

Jill: And so, I guess now maybe we’ll answer a few questions we had on the forum.

Mark: Sure, we can move into some questions Jill you pulled off the forum. Mark: Claro, podemos pasar a algunas preguntas que Jill sacó del foro. Mark: Elbette, forumdan çıkardığın Jill'in bazı sorularına geçebiliriz.

Jill: And they are all from Ayako. ||||||綾子 ||||||a person's name Jill: Ve hepsi Ayako'dan.

Mark: Ayako, Ayako, I guess, yeah.

Jill: Ayako from Japan who’s very active on our forum, our new LingQ forum, and was also very active on our Linguist forum.

She’s one of the few people who is using Ask Your Tutor Forum regularly and so I took a few questions from the forum and they’re all from her. Mark: Good, thanks Ayako.

Jill: Yeah, for keeping our forum alive. Jill: Evet, forumumuzu canlı tutmak için.

Mark: Keeping us busy.

Jill: The first one is “in the next day or two”, which really means exactly what it says, what it sounds like; day or two, so one day or two days, so over the next several days.

Mark: Right.

First thing I’m interested in about this question is it’s from one of our previous podcasts; nice! Jill: Yeah, one that you and I did.

Mark: Yeah, so Ayako was studying it on LingQ and then had some questions.

So yeah, in the next day or two…you know what’s funny too with a phrase like that, at least for myself, I say is that not obvious? Öyleyse evet, ertesi gün ya da…… bunun gibi bir ifadeyle neyin komik olduğunu biliyorsunuz, en azından kendim için, bunun açık olmadığını mı söylüyorum? You know, but obviously it’s not and it requires a bit of explanation. Biliyorsunuz, ama belli ki öyle değil ve biraz açıklama gerektiriyor. Essentially, it means exactly what it says. In the next day or two something is going to happen. Ertesi gün veya iki günde bir şeyler olacak. In this case, the forum is going to be implemented. |||||||||put into action Bu durumda, forum uygulanacak. Jill: So, we’re not quite sure if it’s going to happen today or tomorrow or maybe the next day, but within that period of time; in a few days it’s going to happen.

Mark: Exactly and there’s nothing more complicated; nothing more to it than that it’s…

Jill: …quite simple, yeah.

Mark: In the next day or two.

Jill: And…I mean if we knew for sure we would have said tomorrow. Jill: Demek istediğim, yarın söyleyeceğimizi kesin olarak bilseydik.

Mark: Right.

Jill: The forum will be implemented tomorrow, so… |||||put into action||

Mark: …or two days from now.

Jill: Exactly.

The next one is “to meet their monthly rent”, which I actually find not extremely common. La siguiente es "para hacer frente a su alquiler mensual", que en realidad no me parece extremadamente común. Bir sonraki, gerçekten çok sık rastlamadığım “aylık kiralarını karşılamak”. I wouldn’t normally say, he was unable to meet his monthly rent. Normalmente no diría que no podía hacer frente al alquiler mensual. Normalde, aylık kirasını karşılayamadığını söyleyemem. I would generally say, he couldn’t afford his rent or he wasn’t able to pay his rent. Mark: Couldn’t pay his rent; pay the rent.

Jill: We sort of assume, we know, it’s implied, that rent is a monthly thing, a monthly bill. ||||||||suggested without saying|||||||||

Mark: Right.

Jill: Couldn’t meet, in this case, just means wasn’t able to pay it; didn’t have enough money to pay it.

Mark: Really, as you say, meet your rent is really not something that is…it’s not an expression that’s commonly used. Mark: Gerçekten, dediğiniz gibi, kiranızla tanışmak gerçekten de öyle bir şey değil… sıkça kullanılan bir ifade değil.

Jill: No.

Mark: So, it’s probably not something that you should be remembering or trying to use. Mark: Yani, muhtemelen hatırlamanız veya kullanmaya çalışmanız gereken bir şey değildir.

Jill: …worrying about, right.

Mark: Yeah, the most common expression is “pay your rent.” Mark: Evet, en yaygın ifade “kira ödemeniz”.

Jill: Exactly, pay your rent and so she asked “what would be another example of meet?” I came up with to meet a deadline and that’s much more common. Jill: Aynen, kiranı öde ve o da “başka bir buluşma örneği ne olurdu?” Diye sordu.

Mark: Right.

Jill: We often say, you know, if you have a project that is due on a certain date that’s a deadline. Jill: A menudo decimos, ya sabes, si tienes un proyecto que vence en una fecha determinada, eso es una fecha límite. Jill: Sık sık diyoruz ki, belirli bir tarihte son teslim tarihi olan bir projeniz varsa.

You have to meet your deadline and that’s a much more common usage of meet. Tienes que cumplir tu plazo y ese es un uso mucho más común de cumplir. Son teslim tarihine uymak zorundasın ve bu buluşmanın daha yaygın bir kullanımı. Mark: For sure.

I was trying to think if there are other instances. |||||||||other examples Başka örnekler olup olmadığını düşünmeye çalışıyordum. I mean, obviously, you meet people, which is the most common. Yani, belli ki, en yaygın olan insanlarla tanışıyorsun. Jill: Meet your quota. Джилл: Выполните свою квоту. Jill: Kotanla tanış.

To meet your quota for something is common. Mark: Yeah, I guess another common use…little phone call there to interrupt the proceedings. ||||||||||||||ongoing activities ||||||||||||||os trâmites Mark: Evet, sanırım başka bir yaygın kullanım… işlemleri durdurmak için orada küçük bir telefon.

Hopefully, they don’t try to phone back again, which they did. Esperemos que no vuelvan a intentar llamar, como hicieron. I’ll just keep hanging up on them and we can continue. Seguiré colgándoles y podremos continuar. Jill: And just one more from Ayako, which is “grant.” “What is a grant; a grant program?” Basically, my understanding of a grant is the government…not always the government though, it could be big organizations or companies…give money to another person or organization and it’s not a loan. ||||||||||||||||||||||Financial assistance||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||subvenção|||||||||||||||||||||||||||empréstimo Jill: Y sólo uno más de Ayako, que es "subvención". "¿Qué es una subvención, un programa de subvenciones? Básicamente, lo que yo entiendo por subvención es que el gobierno... aunque no siempre el gobierno, pueden ser grandes organizaciones o empresas... da dinero a otra persona u organización y no es un préstamo. Jill: Ve “bağış” olan Ayako'dan bir tane daha. “Hibe nedir; Bir hibe programı mı? ”Temel olarak hibe anlayışım hükümettir… her zaman hükümet olmasa da, büyük kuruluşlar veya şirketler olabilir… başka bir kişiye veya kuruluşa para verir ve bu bir kredi değildir.

You don’t have to pay it back. No tienes que devolverlo. Mark: That’s the biggest thing, right?

A grant is money that doesn’t have to be paid back. Una subvención es dinero que no hay que devolver. Jill: Right.

Mark: Very often governments or companies or universities that do provide grants also provide loans and so they provide some people with grants and some people with loans the only difference is, of course, that people that get the loans have to pay them back. ||||||||||||||||||||||financial aid|||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||empréstimos||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||

Jill: Exactly or sometimes you get part of the money as a grant and part of the money as a loan.

Mark: Right.

Jill: Very common for university students is they are given $4,000.00 as a grant and $6,000.00 as a loan, for example.

Mark: Right, exactly.

Jill: So, that’s it.

Mark: Great!

Well, it was another wonderful chat and we’ll pick it up again next time. Yine harika bir sohbet oldu ve bir dahaki sefere yine devam edeceğiz. Jill: Yes.

Thanks, bye. Mark: Bye, bye.