One hundred and five: Learning to Snowboard ||||||スノーボードを学ぶ Einhundertundfünf: Snowboarden lernen Ciento cinco Aprender a hacer snowboard Cent cinq : Apprendre le snowboard Centocinque: Imparare a fare snowboard 100と5スノーボードを学ぶ Sto pięć: Nauka jazdy na snowboardzie Cento e cinco: Aprender a fazer snowboard Сто пять: Учимся кататься на сноуборде Etthundrafem: Att lära sig åka snowboard Yüz beş: Snowboard Yapmayı Öğrenmek 第一百零五：学习滑雪板 第一百零五：學習滑雪板

Mark: Welcome to EnglishLingQ. Mark Kaufmann here with Jill Soles back for another installment of the EnglishLingQ Podcast. |||||||||episode|||| |||||ソールズ||||エピソード|||| |||||||||episódio|||| Mark Kaufmann aquí con Jill Soles de vuelta para otra entrega del EnglishLingQ Podcast. マーク・カウフマンここに、ジル・ソールズと一緒にEnglishLingQ Podcastの新しいエピソードです。 I guess we’re finally back on our nice sunny day schedule. やっといい天気の日程に戻ってきたようですね。

Jill: That’s right. ジル: その通りです。

Mark: It’s been a few weeks since we could say that. |それは||||||||| Actually, it was a nice weekend and a beautiful day today. 実際には||||||||||

Jill: Saturday wasn’t that great. I guess the afternoon it cleared it. I guess the afternoon it cleared it. Supongo que la tarde lo aclaró. It did clear up in the afternoon; the morning was miserable. ||||||||||ひどい It did clear up in the afternoon; the morning was miserable. Aclaró por la tarde; la mañana fue miserable.

Mark: Was it. |でした|

Jill: It was snowing, sleet, there was sleet and icy rain, but then it did clear up in the afternoon. ||||sleet||||||||||||||| |||雪が降っていた|みぞれ|||||氷のような|||||||||| ||||chuva||||||||||||||| Jill: Estaba nevando, aguanieve, había aguanieve y lluvia helada, pero luego se aclaró por la tarde.

Mark: That was during our football game we played Saturday morning. We didn’t mind. Мы не возражали.

Jill: I was going to say that’s the way you like it, isn’t it?

Mark: That’s right.

Jill: And then Sunday I think was nice. Actually, we were out of town up in Kamloops for a funeral. ||||||||a Canadian city||| ||||||||カムループス|||葬式 ||||||||Kamloops||| En realidad, estábamos fuera de la ciudad en Kamloops para un funeral. We had to leave at like seven Sunday morning and didn’t get back until the evening.

Mark: Oh really.

Jill: But Kamloops was just clear and sunny. ||カムループス||||| When we came home at night Vancouver was clear as well, so I assumed it was a nice day here. |||||||||||||supposed|||||| |||||||||||||思った||||||

Mark: Yeah, Sunday was beautiful, yesterday. Yeah, did they have snow in Kamloops by the way? Sí, por cierto, ¿tenían nieve en Kamloops?

Jill: Yeah, but not a lot really, maybe a couple centimeters; not very much. ||||||||||センチメートル||| Parts of the Coquihalla Highway were snowing very heavily. |||コキハラ|コキハラ高速道路の一部では非常に激しい雪が降っていました。|||| |||Coquihalla||||| En partes de la autopista Coquihalla nevaba mucho.

Mark: Even when you went through?

Jill: When we went through; when we were driving there. But on the way home the sky was clear the whole drive, the whole four hours.

Mark: Yeah, that’s nice.

Jill: The moon was big and bright and it was just beautiful, because there is still lots of snow on the Coquihalla, not on all the trees, but it wasn’t snowing.

Mark: On the road.

Jill: Yeah, it was nice.

Mark: No rocks went through your sunroof? ||||||car roof window ||石が||||サンルーフ Mark: ¿Ninguna piedra atravesó tu techo solar?

Jill: No, but three good sized ones definitely hit our windshield. ||||||||||car front window |||||大きめの|||||フロントガラス ||||||||||para-brisa Jill: No, pero tres de buen tamaño definitivamente golpearon nuestro parabrisas. We already have a big crack. |||||大きなひび Ya tenemos una gran grieta.

Mark: From before? Mark: ¿De antes?

Jill: From before, so I don’t know if any of them actually made a new ding. |||||||||||||||新しい傷 Jill: De antes, así que no sé si alguno de ellos realmente hizo un nuevo ding. You get behind so many big trucks on that highway and gravel on the road. |||||||||||gravel||| ||||||トラック|||||砂利||| Te pones detrás de muchos camiones grandes en esa autopista y grava en la carretera.

Mark: There’s not much you can do driving around here in the wintertime on the highways anyway. ||||||||||||冬の間|||| Марк: В любом случае, зимой на автомагистралях здесь мало что можно сделать. I mean either they don’t put gravel down and the roads are unsafe... ||||||гравий|||||| ||||||||||道路||危険な Es decir, o no ponen gravilla y las carreteras son inseguras...

Jill: …and you’re in the ditch. |||||溝の中 |||||vala Jill: ...y estás en la zanja.

Mark: They put gravel down and you get some damage to your vehicle. ||||||||||||車両 Mark: Te ponen gravilla y te dañan el vehículo.

Jill: Yeah.

Mark: Yeah, I told you before that our sunroof was cracked, right? ||||||||||ひび割れた| ||||||||teto solar||| Mark: Sí, te dije antes que nuestro techo solar estaba agrietado, ¿verdad? We just got it fixed, but they had to order the sunroof from somewhere in the states and it took 10 days to get here; I don’t know why. It’s been raining here and we had a hole in the roof, you know?

Jill: Not so convenient.

Mark: Not so convenient. I mean they give you this plastic stuff that you can stick over it, but it doesn’t stick that well and it sticks less well every day that you’re driving around in the rain with it. ||||||プラスチック製のもの||||||||||くっつかない||||||くっつく|||||||||||||

Jill: Exactly.

Mark: Not to mention the wind is whistling through. |||||||風がヒューヒュー| Mark: Por no mencionar que el viento está silbando. Yeah, no, that was not good. Kindrey took it in to the insurance claim center and the guy looked at it and he said this is a new car? Kindreyは||||||保険|||||||||||言った||||| She said yeah. ||彼女はうんと言った。 Well…

Jill: Oh, this was on your new vehicle?

Mark: Yeah.

Jill: Oh, I thought it was on your Durango.

Mark: No, no, we would have been alright in our Durango it didn’t have a sunroof. Mark: No, no, habríamos estado bien en nuestro Durango que no tenía techo solar.

Jill: Right, I thought so, yeah.

Mark: So he looked at it and he said well, you need a new sunroof for sure. Your windshield’s got dings in it and the paint’s got dings in it. |windshield has|||||||paint has|||| |フロントガラスの||傷|||||塗装が|||| |para-brisa||amassados||||||||| Tu parabrisas está abollado y la pintura también. Because once you’re going to pay the deductible anyway the rest of the claim is covered. |||||||out-of-pocket amount|||||||| |||||||免責金額|||||||| So we pay our deductible and then they’re going to replace the sunroof, the windshield and the paint job. ||||||||||交換する|||||||| ||||franquia||||||||||||||

Jill: Wow.

Mark: So that’s a big bill.

Jill: That’s a huge bill for ICBC. ||||||insurance company bill ||||||ICBCの請求書

Mark: It would have been, yeah. ICBC is the Insurance Corporation of British Columbia. ||||保険会社|||

Jill: Our monopoly. ||独占権

Mark: It’s our, I guess, socialized car insurance in B.C. |||||publicly funded||||| |||||社会化された||||| Mark: Es nuestro, supongo, seguro de coche socializado en B.C. Anyway, everyone is insured by ICBC, but they cover road damage, essentially. |||covered by insurance|||||||| |||被保険者|||||||| I have a deductible and in my case it was $300.00 that I have to pay, but then they pay the rest and it doesn’t affect my premiums. ||||||||||||||||||||||||||insurance payments ||||||||||||||||||||||||||保険料 Tengo un deducible y en mi caso fue de $ 300.00 que tengo que pagar, pero luego pagan el resto y no afecta a mis primas.

Jill: No, your rates don’t go up or anything, yeah. Jill: No, sus tarifas no suben ni nada, sí.

Mark: I mean it’s not good that we broke the sunroof, but at least it’s good that a big bill is largely covered by insurance.

Jill: Well that they’re going to do all those other repairs too. ||||||||||fixing things| ||||||||||修理|

Mark: I know.

Jill: Because they don’t have to. Джил: Потому что им это не нужно. They can actually make you do all separate claims in which case you have to pay the deductible each time.

Mark: Yeah, exactly.

Jill: So that’s good that they did that.

Mark: I guess because it all happened at the same time.

Jill: Yeah.

Mark: I think if it wasn’t a new car they wouldn’t have done that, because they can’t, obviously, tell when the dings happened. But because we just got it they said well, you know, it must have happened because it was new when you got it, so the guy included it all.

Jill: Well that’s great.

Mark: And what’s more, we were able to say well, we’re going to be driving the rest of the winter. Can we just do the sunroof now and fix the rest of it later and he’s written it up in such a way that we can. Можем ли мы просто сделать люк сейчас, а остальное исправить позже, и он написал это таким образом, что мы можем это сделать.

Jill: Oh wow!

Mark: Yeah.

Jill: I didn’t know they’d let you do that. That’s great.

Mark: So that was great. Anyway, the sunroof is fixed now. It’s much nicer driving that car.

Jill: Maybe the kids will like it now.

Mark: I know.

Jill: More quiet.

Mark: That’s right.

Yeah, other than that, yesterday was a beautiful day here. My dad and I went up snowshoeing. Did you talk to Mike, by the way? He started snowboarding.

Jill: I did. Mike our programmer, one of our programmers, was off for a couple of weeks and he said he went six times, six or seven times, every other day he said. Mike nuestro programador, uno de nuestros programadores, estuvo fuera un par de semanas y dijo que fue seis veces, seis o siete veces, cada dos días dijo.

Mark: If not more; quite a few, yeah. Mark: Si no más; bastantes, sí.

Jill: Yeah, that’s great.

He just decided to take it up, didn’t take any lessons and he said he just got on and went down the hill and it just worked for him. Decidió hacerlo sin más, no tomó ninguna clase y dijo que simplemente se subió y bajó la colina y le funcionó.

Mark: Which is great.

Jill: I know.

Mark: I don’t know, I just wouldn’t have thought that, but why not? That’s great.

Jill: Yeah, it surprised me too, but that’s great for him.

Mark: I mean I’ve never tried snowboarding. I know you’re a snowboarder. Ik weet dat je een snowboarder bent.

Jill: Not really. Yeah, I have attempted for a few years, but I’ve lost interest. Now I’m going back to skiing.

Mark: Oh yeah. It’s more the snowboarder lifestyle that appealed to you. ||||||attracted|| Es más el estilo de vida del snowboarder lo que te atrae.

Jill: Yeah, right. Well, no, I won’t talk about the stereotypes. I have a few friends who are big on snowboarding, so I shouldn’t say anything. У меня есть несколько друзей, которые увлекаются сноубордом, так что я не должен ничего говорить. But, no, skiing, I think I’ll stick with that. Pero no, esquiar, creo que me quedaré con eso. There’s no learning curve anymore.

Mark: No. That’s my argument all the time.

Jill: Mike said that he thinks snowboarding is way easier than skiing. Jill: Mike dijo que él piensa que el snowboard es mucho más fácil que el esquí.

Mark: However, he’s not a skier. |||||スキーをする人

Jill: He’s not a skier, so I think that that’s probably true. Because I think to learn, initially, you can be a decent snowboarder quite quickly; whereas, it is difficult to become a good skier. You can ski down easy runs and look pretty bad pretty quickly, but it is difficult to get good; whereas, I think with snowboarding once you get the hang of it you can pretty much go down most of the runs. ||||||||||||||||||||||||||acquire|||||||||||||| Puedes esquiar por pistas fáciles y parecer bastante malo rápidamente, pero es difícil llegar a ser bueno; en cambio, creo que con el snowboard, una vez que le coges el truco, puedes bajar casi todas las pistas.

Mark: He said that. I have heard that it’s easier to pick up than skiing, however, if you’ve been skiing your whole life. Sin embargo, he oído que es más fácil de aprender que el esquí si llevas toda la vida esquiando. Because snowboarding didn’t exist when I started skiing, so to start something new when I don’t ski that often I just can’t see myself doing it. If I have five days of skiing I don’t want to waste two of them learning how to snowboard.

Jill: Exactly.

Mark: I only have five days, I want to ski.

Jill: I think if you’ve been skiing your whole life and you want something new, maybe you’re a little bit bored or you want a new challenge, sure, go for it; try it. Or all of your friends snowboard and usually snowboarders don’t go down the mogully runs or the black runs, often it’s the blues that they go down. |||||||||||||モーグルコ||||||||||||| |||||||||||||morrinhos||||||||||||| O todos tus amigos practican snowboard y, por lo general, los snowboarders no bajan por las pistas mogully ni por las negras, sino por las azules. Of al je vrienden snowboarden en snowboarders gaan meestal niet naar de buckelpistes of de zwarte pistes, vaak is het de blues die ze afdalen. Или все ваши друзья катаются на сноуборде, и обычно сноубордисты не спускаются по трассам mogully или черным трассам, чаще всего они спускаются по синим трассам. Ya da tüm arkadaşlarınız snowboard yapıyor ve genellikle snowboardcular mogully pistlerine ya da siyah pistlere inmiyor, genellikle mavilere iniyorlar.

Mark: If they do go down they wreck them. Mark: Si caen, los destrozan. Snowboarders, get off my hill! ¡Snowboarders, fuera de mi colina! Сноубордисты, убирайтесь с моей горки!

Jill: So yeah, I think if you have a reason to pick up snowboarding that’s great if you’re already a skier. I think, for the most part, if you’re already a skier and you enjoy skiing why not just continue skiing.

Mark: Why did you take up snowboarding, might I ask? Mark: ¿Puedo preguntarle por qué empezó a practicar snowboard?

Jill: Because I stopped skiing. I skied a lot when I was a kid into my sort of early teens and then I, basically, just gave it up. Esquié mucho de niño, hasta los primeros años de la adolescencia y luego, básicamente, lo dejé. I just lost interest and I would go maybe once every couple of years kind of thing. It’s not like I’m a fantastic skier anymore or anything like that, so I just thought it would be fun to try something new.

Mark: Yeah.

Jill: I had some friends who did it and I just thought oh well, I don’t really ski anymore anyway. I have a good friend who’s a good snowboarder and she wanted to get all new gear. ||||||||||||||||equipment Tengo una buena amiga que es una buena snowboarder y quería comprarse todo el equipo nuevo. İyi bir snowboardcu olan iyi bir arkadaşım var ve tamamen yeni ekipmanlar almak istedi. She sold me all her stuff for pretty inexpensive, so I just bought it all and now I’ve only used it three times or something.

Mark: Oh really?

Jill: It really wasn’t a very good investment, shall we say, considering I also had to buy brand new boots. Jill: La verdad es que no fue una buena inversión, digamos, teniendo en cuenta que también tuve que comprar botas nuevas. Джил: Это было, скажем так, не очень удачное вложение средств, учитывая, что мне также пришлось купить совершенно новые ботинки.

Mark: To fit you. Mark: A tu medida.

Jill: Those were, I don’t know, two or three hundred dollars or whatever. So yeah, I just thought I’d try something new.

Mark: Did you ever take lessons? |||at any time|| Like Mike said he went… Oh, you did.

Jill: I did. I took two lessons I think. My little sister and I did and it definitely helped. You know, it was an hour or an hour and a half the two of us together took one – we took two actually – and, definitely, they helped me so that I could turn and I could actually go down the whole hill without falling. Ya sabes, fue una hora u hora y media, los dos juntos tomamos una - en realidad tomamos dos - y, definitivamente, me ayudaron para que pudiera girar y realmente pudiera bajar toda la colina sin caerme. But my problem was then I needed to keep going several times and then I think I would have got the hang of it. Pero mi problema era que entonces necesitaba seguir varias veces y entonces creo que le habría cogido el truco. But because I sort of just went and then maybe didn’t go again until the next year, you lose it all.

Mark: Well that’s where I’ve got to hand it to Mike. Mark: Bueno, ahí es donde tengo que reconocérselo a Mike. Марк: Вот тут я должен отдать должное Майку. I don’t think he’s been on the mountain, you know. I mean I don’t know, but he’s tried skiing two or three times in his life, you know, I don’t know how long ago, and all of a sudden he decided I’m going to snowboard. He had time off, he went up there and he said he went like 10 times. He started out on the bunny hill, the rope tow beginner hill, for two-three days and then he graduated to the green runs and then the blue runs and he said he even the last day he attempted the steeper black run, which he said was a mistake. ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||急な|||||||| |||||coelho|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||mais íngreme|||||||| Empezó en la colina de los conejos, la colina de los principiantes con remolque de cuerda, durante dos o tres días y luego pasó a las pistas verdes y luego a las azules y dijo que incluso el último día intentó la pista negra más empinada, lo que dijo que fue un error. But, at any rate, even the fact that he…

Jill: You could always toboggan down. Jill: Siempre se puede bajar en trineo. Jill: Je kunt altijd naar beneden sleeën. Джил: Вы всегда можете спуститься на санях.

Mark: Sitting on the back? Mark: ¿Sentado en la espalda?

Jill: Yeah, it’s great.

Mark: Oh really?

Jill: I’ve done that before; it’s fun.

Mark: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so anyway, I mean that’s great and so he obviously feels comfortable on the blue runs.

Jill: Yeah, that’s great.

Mark: Even the fact that he would attempt a steep black run like that.

Jill: After a handful of times, you know, yeah. Jill: Después de un puñado de veces, ya sabes, sí.

Mark: But it’s amazing. You know it’s a bit like language learning, if you do it every day that concentration really pays dividends. ||||||||||||||||||rewards |||||||||||||||||traz|dividendos Es un poco como aprender idiomas, si lo haces todos los días esa concentración realmente da sus frutos. He went like every day or almost every day for two weeks. Yeah, he made a big improvement and now he’s in the groove where he’s probably past the stage where he’s going to regress like you. |||||||||||zone||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||後退する|| ||||||||||||||||||||||regredir|| Sí, ha mejorado mucho y ahora está en una fase en la que probablemente ya ha pasado la etapa en la que va a retroceder como tú.

Jill: Yeah, exactly.

Mark: He’s comfortable; he’s done it enough now. He can go up there on the weekend for one day a week and really enjoy himself. Haftada bir gün hafta sonu oraya gidebilir ve gerçekten eğlenebilir.

Jill: Yeah, I know. I think that’s what you need to do. You need to go at least a few times very, you know, close to each other. Tienes que ir al menos un par de veces muy, ya sabes, cerca el uno del otro.

Mark: You need a concentrated effort.

Jill: Yeah, yeah.

Mark: Even when we go skiing -- like at Christmas we go for five days -- I mean the first day you’re a bit rusty, by the second day you’re feeling better, by the fifth day you’re feeling great, as opposed to skiing once every two weeks you probably don’t get that. Mark: Kayağa gittiğimizde bile - mesela Noel'de beş günlüğüne gidiyoruz - yani ilk gün biraz paslanmış oluyorsun, ikinci gün daha iyi hissediyorsun, beşinci gün harika hissediyorsun, iki haftada bir kayak yapmanın aksine muhtemelen bunu elde edemezsin.

Jill: No.

Mark: Every time almost feels new again, right?

Jill: Unless you’re a really good skier and every single year every week or two you go skiing and then I think you’re sort of always in the groove of things. ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||rhythm|| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||ritmo||

Mark: Sure. Yeah, there are some people that ski all the time and, as you say, those are the guys that are skiing today, they’re going to snowboard tomorrow, they’ve got their Telemark Skis that they’re going to use the next day and they’ve got all this stuff because they’re really into it. ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||テレマークス|テレマークス||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||esquis de Telemark||||||||||||||||||||

Jill: Yeah.

Mark: Yeah, no, I’m more of a…

Jill: …fair-weather skier. ...esquiador de mal tiempo.

Mark: I wouldn’t say that. You should have seen the weather when we were there at Christmastime. |||||||||||クリスマスの時 You couldn’t see for the top-half of the mountain. No se podía ver la mitad superior de la montaña.

Jill: Yeah.

Mark: You get used to skiing in the fog. ||||||||neblina Mark: Te acostumbras a esquiar en la niebla.

Jill: Well, that’s true and just even around here period you’re not going to do much skiing if you’re a fair-weather skier. Jill: Bueno, eso es cierto e incluso por aquí período no vas a hacer mucho esquí si eres un esquiador de buen tiempo.

Mark: No, although, I guess my dad said he was up on Saturday cross-country skiing and it was cloudy down here, but it was sunny up there.

Jill: He got above the clouds, yeah. Jill: Se puso por encima de las nubes, sí.

Mark: Yeah.

I’ve been up on days like that; it’s great.

Jill: Beautiful, yeah.

Mark: Beautiful, sunny, clear, looking down over the carpet of clouds, yeah. Mark: Precioso, soleado, despejado, mirando hacia abajo sobre la alfombra de nubes, sí. There’s a lot of snow up there, so.

Jill: Oh, it’s crazy. I think there’s 400 centimeters or something at Cypress. |||||||Cypress Я думаю, что в Cypress 400 см или около того.

Mark: Is there really? Mark: ¿De verdad? I believe it.

Jill: It’s just crazy the amount of snow that we have on all our local mountains.

Mark: Yeah, yeah.

Jill: I think it’s been one of the best years ever.

Mark: It’s been a good year, yeah, well, up on the mountain. It’s been very wet down here. Anyway, I was quite impressed at Mike’s adventures there.

Jill: I know.

Good for him; that’s great.

Mark: Actually, Henry was telling me he’s going to go get some… Henry is our developer who’s from France and he’s here in Canada on working holiday for a year, so he’s going to get himself some skates. |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||スケート Mark: En realidad, Henry me estaba diciendo que iba a ir a comprar unos... Henry es nuestro desarrollador, es francés y está aquí en Canadá trabajando de vacaciones durante un año, así que va a comprarse unos patines.

Jill: Oh, he’s going to learn to skate.

Mark: Yeah, because I guess some friends of his go together to the Denman Arena. |||||||||||||デンマンアリ| |||||||||||||Arena Denman| I don’t know when, at night sometime. They have public skating and he’s been giving it a whirl. ||||||||||uma chance Tienen patinaje público y ha estado dándole caña. У них есть общественное катание, и он с удовольствием катается.

Jill: That’s great.

Mark: Yeah, I thought that was pretty good. In fact, they should go up to the outdoor rink up on Grouse Mountain. ||||||||||||a mountain resort| ||||ir||||||||| De hecho, deberían ir a la pista al aire libre de Grouse Mountain.

Jill: That would be beautiful.

Mark: Yeah.

Jill: The only thing with that is then it costs you $20.00 each person, because you have to take the tram up the hill.

Mark: Yeah, that’s true.

Jill: So even if you’re not skiing, you still have to pay your ticket.

Mark: Just to go up and skate, although, if you’ve never been and you’re from out of town. I think a lot of his friends are also…

Jill: From out of town?

Mark: It would probably be a neat thing to do.

Jill: Oh yeah, because there’s so much to do up there. Джил: О да, ведь там столько всего интересного.

Mark: On a clear night there’s so much to do up there. Yeah, maybe I’ll suggest that to him.

Jill: Yeah.

Mark: Anyway, I think that we’ll stop there for today. Mark: De todos modos, creo que vamos a dejarlo aquí por hoy. We hope to catch up with all of you next time. Esperamos encontrarnos con todos ustedes la próxima vez.

Jill: See you later.